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CEO @ Pavilion | Co-Host of Topline Podcast | WSJ Bestselling Author of "Kind Folks Finish First" | Helping revenue executives navigate their careers through community-powered education and support

Why has "revenue" replaced "sales" as the common moniker for making money? Because making money is a team sport. Companies don't grow because of "sales". They grow because of the alignment and integration between Product, Marketing, Sales, and Customer Success. Revenue is a more holistic term that speaks to that integration. The idea that it's just the sales team's job to help a company grow is a relic of an earlier age. All of us working together are how the sausage gets made. (Which is also why all executives should be paid similarly vs. having one sales leader have a wacky comp structure relative to everyone else on the exec team).

Vadim Kapitanov

Head of Product | MitgoX

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I would say that the initial reason for the shift is pure logic and simple math. Once everyone around realised how to calvulate CAC and LTV, Retention and NRR appeared to be as important as Sales. Without them it’s just pouring water in a bucket without a bottom. Also there was a huge shift over last 10 years to “subscription-based” world. If 10 years ago making a sale was a huge success, currently the value of initial sale deminished. Huge commitement periods partially cope with it, but only partially. And at that point it became “a team sport”. 😄

Dave Joyce

CEO | COO | Consultant | Advisor | NED | Experienced leader of early stage businesses in the Fintech and Technology sectors

1y

I'd largely agree Sam, but the one observation I would make is that I think there is a bauiness stage dependency on how this actually plays out. I'd argue that in early stage companies, the focus on sales should be paramount, with revenue lagging in terms of growth rate. The danger of focusing too early on revenue - rather than sales - and making it a team sport is that it can slow the business down as everyone on the (exec) team think they have an equal say in things - which can create inertia.

Nachiket Pathki

Founder & CEO in Stealth| Angel Investor | Strategic Advisory | Enterprise B2B SaaS Sales, Marketing | 18+ years

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Completely with you on the "revenue" positioning. With the data/ops/mechanics involved in running a business, the last thing you want is siloed groups each saying, "Our measurements/KPIs/whatever say we're awesome, it's everyone else that's falling short." I'd assert the comp. structure question is *very* situational. I don't think it's wise to lump concentrated enterprise (e.g. you sell to large mobile carriers and have 100 potential targets, ever) with say SME freemium. Wildly diffent business models can't be painted with a single compensation design, IMO.

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Ted McNulty

VP Sales @ AdDaptive Intelligence | Driving Revenue Growth

1y

I generally agree with this sentiment Sam Jacobs , but it needs to go both ways. If other departments get credit for helping sales grow the company they must also bear some of the responsibility if sales misses their goals.

Jeanne Hopkins

Senior Vice President, Revenue & Growth Marketing @ The Pedowitz Group

1y

If only you could convince PE and VC leadership of this Sam They want the proverbial "one throat to choke" for Revenue fails.

Bill Flynn

CEO & Entrepreneur 🔹 Business Advisor 🔹 Best-Selling Author 🔹 Multi-certified Business Growth coach 🔹 25+ Years as a Startup COO/Sales, VP & CMO 🔹 Endorsed by Alan Mulally, Marshall Goldsmith, Amy Edmondson 🔹

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Sam Jacobs - I believe in your concept but do not think revenue and making money are synonymous. Revenue is vanity, profit is sanity and cash is king, especially for growth oriented companies. Growth needs cash in front of its needs. Align everyone on how to generate the cash to fund growth is where I come down on this topic most often.

Mike Baron

Proven Enterprise Sales Leader (Pre-Revenue to $1.5B) / Sales Coach-Mentor / Pavilion Executive / ‘Reframe the Lens’ sales framework has guided multiple startups repeatability & successful exits

1y

Sam, your point largely makes sense but many leaders are not wired to get after it like great sales leaders and their sales teams. Comp plans should be more aligned but people crushing it in various roles are also often wired differently. Their own definition of 'crushing it' means something different. It takes a versatile CEO and/or sales leader to bring the band together to function as a well-oiled symphony. To support one another and not just talk about great culture, etc.

Alex Berg

Driving Behaviors That Drive Revenue | AI | SaaS Sales | Rev Ops | Sales Enablement

1y

Well said Sam Jacobs and I would add the word “profitable” to the mix. Yes, we must all be aligned around revenue growth; however, at some point companies also need to turn a profit and too often client lifetime value (CLV) is left for the CX organization to sort out when it should be part of the sales process, starting with ICP and qualification.

Dalton Van Hatchet🪓

Girl Dad | Operator | CEO @ Hatchet Ventures

1y

Sales people don't close deals, buyers do. Absolutely a team sport and the best teams help arm and educate the buyers on how to close deals.

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